1 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:08,330 Scott Kelly and Mikhail Kornienko have 2 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:10,530 embarked on a one-year mission aboard 3 00:00:14,540 --> 00:00:12,510 the International Space Station to help 4 00:00:15,830 --> 00:00:14,550 gather more information about how being 5 00:00:18,710 --> 00:00:15,840 weightless in the space environment 6 00:00:21,499 --> 00:00:18,720 affects the human body one area of 7 00:00:23,089 --> 00:00:21,509 particular interest is vision some of 8 00:00:24,979 --> 00:00:23,099 the station crew members suffer 9 00:00:27,589 --> 00:00:24,989 diminished vision after a long-duration 10 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:27,599 mission and a prime suspect is the shift 11 00:00:31,099 --> 00:00:29,310 of bodily fluids to the head during a 12 00:00:32,810 --> 00:00:31,109 mission there's a new experiment known 13 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:32,820 as fluid shifts that's looking to 14 00:00:37,639 --> 00:00:35,129 measure the shift and determine its 15 00:00:40,279 --> 00:00:37,649 impact on the crew members recently my 16 00:00:42,590 --> 00:00:40,289 colleague Pat Ryan had spoke with one of 17 00:00:44,779 --> 00:00:42,600 the co-principal investigators on this 18 00:00:47,299 --> 00:00:44,789 experiment dr. Michael sting of the 19 00:00:49,009 --> 00:00:47,309 biomedical sciences branch here at the 20 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:49,019 Johnson Space Center in Houston to learn 21 00:00:53,119 --> 00:00:51,210 about why fluids move to the head when 22 00:00:57,829 --> 00:00:53,129 you're in space and why that may be 23 00:01:00,049 --> 00:00:57,839 impacting astronauts vision well on 24 00:01:01,819 --> 00:01:00,059 earth your your body is designed to pump 25 00:01:03,079 --> 00:01:01,829 the blood from your lower body from your 26 00:01:04,189 --> 00:01:03,089 big toe all the way back up to your 27 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:04,199 heart and into your brain which is the 28 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:07,350 most important organ to perfuse when you 29 00:01:11,150 --> 00:01:09,450 go into space you know body no longer is 30 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:11,160 to fight against gravity to do this so 31 00:01:15,020 --> 00:01:12,960 if this immediate shift of bodily fluids 32 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:15,030 from the lower body up to the upper body 33 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:17,460 about two liters of fluid actually shift 34 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:19,110 to the upper body which is why you see 35 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:21,000 pictures of astronauts with puffy faces 36 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:22,490 and engorged veins and their neck and 37 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:25,050 this is too much too much fluid and 38 00:01:29,930 --> 00:01:27,600 upper body and the hypothesis is that in 39 00:01:31,610 --> 00:01:29,940 your enclosed brain in the skull which 40 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:31,620 is a rigid container that this increase 41 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:33,210 in volume is leading to an increase in 42 00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:36,930 intracranial pressure or ICP and this 43 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:38,460 increase in pressure is affecting the 44 00:01:41,390 --> 00:01:40,320 back of the eye there are two holes in 45 00:01:43,580 --> 00:01:41,400 the front of your school where your 46 00:01:45,650 --> 00:01:43,590 orbits it and this this increased 47 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:45,660 intracranial pressure is flattening the 48 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:47,610 back of the eye causing swelling the 49 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:49,140 back of the eye and the nerve sheath in 50 00:01:52,490 --> 00:01:50,490 the back of the eye and ultimately this 51 00:01:55,670 --> 00:01:52,500 is leading the vision changes because 52 00:01:58,460 --> 00:01:55,680 the eyeball is not the same shape that's 53 00:01:59,840 --> 00:01:58,470 one of the reasons yes well so does it 54 00:02:01,490 --> 00:01:59,850 go back to normal then when they come 55 00:02:04,130 --> 00:02:01,500 back to earth and the fluid is no longer 56 00:02:05,930 --> 00:02:04,140 shifting into their heads and most 57 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:05,940 astronauts it does and shut in shuttle 58 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:07,170 astronauts they experienced these same 59 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:09,090 visual changes they carried extra 60 00:02:13,450 --> 00:02:11,670 glasses to wear on shuttle missions but 61 00:02:15,340 --> 00:02:13,460 it's only been recently in long-duration 62 00:02:17,290 --> 00:02:15,350 missions that astronauts have been 63 00:02:19,510 --> 00:02:17,300 coming back with his visual problems 64 00:02:22,060 --> 00:02:19,520 that are not recovering and so there's 65 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:22,070 probably a length of mission effect here 66 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:23,690 that's causing these permanent changes 67 00:02:27,460 --> 00:02:25,610 so there are permanent changes we need 68 00:02:28,930 --> 00:02:27,470 to find out what's causing them before 69 00:02:31,750 --> 00:02:28,940 we spend even longer amounts of time in 70 00:02:33,970 --> 00:02:31,760 space right now what is your study 71 00:02:35,830 --> 00:02:33,980 called fluid ships what are you intend 72 00:02:37,810 --> 00:02:35,840 to find out and how are you going to do 73 00:02:39,790 --> 00:02:37,820 it so we have three main aims in our 74 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:39,800 study the first aim is to fully 75 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:41,690 characterize this fluid shift so not 76 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:43,430 only the amount of fluid that's gone 77 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:44,690 from the lower body to the upper body 78 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:46,910 but where this fluid is we're gonna 79 00:02:51,130 --> 00:02:48,470 measure fluid inside and outside of 80 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:51,140 cells we're going to measure fluid blood 81 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:52,970 fluid plasma inside the blood vessels 82 00:02:55,980 --> 00:02:54,410 and how this filters out of the blood 83 00:02:58,570 --> 00:02:55,990 vessels into the interstitial spaces 84 00:03:00,430 --> 00:02:58,580 we're going to use ultrasound to assess 85 00:03:03,310 --> 00:03:00,440 total arterial blood flow and do the 86 00:03:05,170 --> 00:03:03,320 brain and then examine venous drainage 87 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:05,180 out of the brain so we want to fully 88 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:07,610 characterize how this fluid is changing 89 00:03:11,860 --> 00:03:09,950 when you're in space and our hypothesis 90 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:11,870 is that different astronauts will have 91 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:14,090 individual responses to this and so 92 00:03:17,110 --> 00:03:15,710 there'll be different varying magnitudes 93 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:17,120 of this Hedford fluid shift and 94 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:19,090 subsequent redistribution of fluid our 95 00:03:24,940 --> 00:03:21,890 second aim is then to determine the 96 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:24,950 relationship between those changes the 97 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:27,320 fluid changes and impact on this visual 98 00:03:31,510 --> 00:03:29,350 syndrome so we're going to examine 99 00:03:33,370 --> 00:03:31,520 non-invasive estimates of intracranial 100 00:03:35,020 --> 00:03:33,380 pressure changes associated spaceflight 101 00:03:37,390 --> 00:03:35,030 we're going to measure intraocular 102 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:37,400 pressure using tonometry we're going to 103 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:38,810 examine the shape of the eye using 104 00:03:42,190 --> 00:03:40,730 ocular sound to look at flattening of 105 00:03:44,380 --> 00:03:42,200 the back of the eye any swelling of the 106 00:03:45,190 --> 00:03:44,390 optic nerve sheath there's a really nice 107 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:45,200 technology called 108 00:03:48,820 --> 00:03:47,360 optical coherence tomography which these 109 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:48,830 beautiful pictures of the back of the 110 00:03:52,210 --> 00:03:50,450 eye so we can see swelling of the 111 00:03:55,890 --> 00:03:52,220 choroid in the back of the eye of the 112 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:55,900 retina itself and our hypothesis is that 113 00:04:00,370 --> 00:03:58,730 the more severe you've had word fluid 114 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:00,380 shift that you have the more severe 115 00:04:05,380 --> 00:04:02,060 these ocular structural and functional 116 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:05,390 changes will be and our third aim is 117 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:06,530 kind of getting along the lines of this 118 00:04:10,990 --> 00:04:09,050 individual susceptibility issue we think 119 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:11,000 that pre-flight by manipulating fluid 120 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:12,830 shifts by changing your posture by 121 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:15,650 assessing fluid location you're sitting 122 00:04:19,210 --> 00:04:17,720 upright and then laying you down then 123 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:19,220 then you head down to call the Hydra 124 00:04:23,230 --> 00:04:21,530 fluid shift and then applying lower body 125 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:23,240 negative pressure to cause a foot word 126 00:04:27,370 --> 00:04:25,490 fluid shift we think that then we can 127 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,380 determine pre-flight individual 128 00:04:31,750 --> 00:04:29,600 differences and those responses which 129 00:04:34,330 --> 00:04:31,760 may predict visual changes in 130 00:04:36,580 --> 00:04:34,340 spaceflight a susceptibility to the 131 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:36,590 syndrome exactly and we also want to 132 00:04:41,410 --> 00:04:39,050 track astronauts post flight for six 133 00:04:43,210 --> 00:04:41,420 months to try to understand better these 134 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:43,220 mechanisms why some crew members are 135 00:04:46,990 --> 00:04:44,690 recovering and some are not 136 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:47,000 now much of the equipment that you 137 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:48,290 described that you want to use is 138 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:50,690 already there and being used in a 139 00:04:56,260 --> 00:04:54,770 related experiment right yes the Oct the 140 00:04:57,790 --> 00:04:56,270 optical coherence tomography is being 141 00:04:59,920 --> 00:04:57,800 used an ocular health which is a 142 00:05:01,780 --> 00:04:59,930 surveillance study we are flying some 143 00:05:03,370 --> 00:05:01,790 new pieces of hardware some non-invasive 144 00:05:06,220 --> 00:05:03,380 intracranial pressure measurement 145 00:05:08,830 --> 00:05:06,230 devices one is called the C CFP and the 146 00:05:13,630 --> 00:05:08,840 other one is called the DP oae these are 147 00:05:16,390 --> 00:05:13,640 these are acronyms for for one cerebral 148 00:05:18,550 --> 00:05:16,400 car clear fluid pressures see CF P DP o 149 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:18,560 AE is distortion product otoacoustic 150 00:05:22,780 --> 00:05:20,090 emissions these are non-invasive 151 00:05:25,390 --> 00:05:22,790 technologies that estimate changes in 152 00:05:28,030 --> 00:05:25,400 intracranial pressure by sending a sound 153 00:05:30,670 --> 00:05:28,040 wave into the ear and there's a there's 154 00:05:32,110 --> 00:05:30,680 actually a continuous fluid column 155 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:32,120 between the inner ear and the brain 156 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:34,310 called the cocktail er aqueduct and so 157 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:35,570 if there's any changes in brain pressure 158 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:38,090 it'll change the shape of the ear the 159 00:05:41,380 --> 00:05:39,890 inner ear so by sending sound waves and 160 00:05:43,180 --> 00:05:41,390 and determining the characteristics of 161 00:05:45,550 --> 00:05:43,190 those sound waves they bounce back we 162 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:45,560 can estimate changes in pressure so we 163 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:46,850 can estimate that way sitting up then we 164 00:05:50,170 --> 00:05:48,110 lay down the pressure you brain will go 165 00:05:51,490 --> 00:05:50,180 up so we'll see that change and then if 166 00:05:52,660 --> 00:05:51,500 we plan intervention such as lowered by 167 00:05:54,910 --> 00:05:52,670 a negative pressure perhaps we'll see 168 00:05:56,590 --> 00:05:54,920 that go back down again you mentioned 169 00:06:00,400 --> 00:05:56,600 that before to the lower body negative 170 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:00,410 pressure suit if you will is a Russian 171 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:01,490 piece of hardware that they've been 172 00:06:05,020 --> 00:06:03,890 using for years how are you plan to make 173 00:06:07,210 --> 00:06:05,030 use of it so the Russians have this 174 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:07,220 device called the chievous it's a lower 175 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:09,410 body negative pressure or LB MP suit 176 00:06:12,190 --> 00:06:11,330 they use it as a post mission 177 00:06:15,460 --> 00:06:12,200 countermeasure 178 00:06:18,580 --> 00:06:15,470 to sort of react limit the cosmonauts to 179 00:06:20,620 --> 00:06:18,590 earth stress so by applying a vacuum to 180 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:20,630 the lower body they can in essence suck 181 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:23,120 the blood to the lower body as you'd 182 00:06:26,650 --> 00:06:24,170 experience if you're standing up on 183 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:26,660 earth and so this stresses the 184 00:06:30,580 --> 00:06:28,280 cardiovascular system at the same time 185 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:30,590 they're filling a musculoskeletal stress 186 00:06:33,610 --> 00:06:32,240 they've got suspenders on so they're 187 00:06:35,020 --> 00:06:33,620 feeling a pressure on the bottom of the 188 00:06:37,930 --> 00:06:35,030 feed they haven't activate the muscles 189 00:06:40,030 --> 00:06:37,940 in their legs and they use it to kind of 190 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:40,040 reintroduce gravity so to say to 191 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:40,969 cosmonauts before 192 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:42,860 and they do exercise while wearing yes 193 00:06:48,459 --> 00:06:46,610 they do we're interested in that that 194 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:48,469 suction part of it we're interested to 195 00:06:52,119 --> 00:06:49,849 see if this could possibly be a 196 00:06:54,369 --> 00:06:52,129 countermeasure to this head with fluid 197 00:06:55,929 --> 00:06:54,379 just by vacuuming the fluid back to the 198 00:06:58,179 --> 00:06:55,939 lower body we're going to assess all 199 00:07:00,039 --> 00:06:58,189 these same parameters under this lb NP 200 00:07:01,419 --> 00:07:00,049 stress so we'll look at blood flow to 201 00:07:03,459 --> 00:07:01,429 the brain will get drainage from the 202 00:07:05,049 --> 00:07:03,469 brain via the different veins coming out 203 00:07:06,369 --> 00:07:05,059 of the head and we'll look at pressure 204 00:07:08,379 --> 00:07:06,379 in the eye and pressure in the brain 205 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:08,389 structure of the eye etcetera while 206 00:07:12,219 --> 00:07:10,639 while in the Russian segment this is a 207 00:07:14,589 --> 00:07:12,229 somewhat technically challenging portion 208 00:07:16,779 --> 00:07:14,599 of experiment because the cheapest is on 209 00:07:18,789 --> 00:07:16,789 the Russian side of the station on the 210 00:07:21,459 --> 00:07:18,799 far end of the station so we have to 211 00:07:23,829 --> 00:07:21,469 pack up all of our equipment transported 212 00:07:25,539 --> 00:07:23,839 to the service module unstow it set it 213 00:07:30,069 --> 00:07:25,549 up use it and then bring it all back 214 00:07:32,469 --> 00:07:30,079 again the findings clearly could have 215 00:07:34,809 --> 00:07:32,479 some impact on astronauts and their 216 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:34,819 vision could findings be applicable to 217 00:07:40,329 --> 00:07:36,860 people on earth to have some kind of 218 00:07:42,359 --> 00:07:40,339 similar visual be sure absolutely in 219 00:07:44,259 --> 00:07:42,369 fact their clinicians now that are 220 00:07:46,389 --> 00:07:44,269 investigating some of these non-invasive 221 00:07:48,129 --> 00:07:46,399 intracranial pressure devices for 222 00:07:50,049 --> 00:07:48,139 patients that have elevated intracranial 223 00:07:52,689 --> 00:07:50,059 pressure such as hydrocephalus patients 224 00:07:55,359 --> 00:07:52,699 and that'd be great for patients that 225 00:07:57,669 --> 00:07:55,369 have to measure ICP or inner pressure 226 00:08:00,159 --> 00:07:57,679 non-invasively as opposed to an invasive 227 00:08:02,229 --> 00:08:00,169 measures such as a lumbar puncture so it 228 00:08:03,609 --> 00:08:02,239 definitely could have benefits there be 229 00:08:05,669 --> 00:08:03,619 very interesting just to see how that 230 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:05,679 goes and is this going to be running 231 00:08:10,509 --> 00:08:07,969 throughout the the year-long mission it 232 00:08:12,219 --> 00:08:10,519 has the two one-year crew members our 233 00:08:13,869 --> 00:08:12,229 test subject for this experiment and 234 00:08:15,699 --> 00:08:13,879 they're the first two so we have eight 235 00:08:18,069 --> 00:08:15,709 more after them more to come later 236 00:08:20,379 --> 00:08:18,079 that's great we'll be interested to see 237 00:08:22,239 --> 00:08:20,389 what results you get thank you for for 238 00:08:24,009 --> 00:08:22,249 bringing us up to speed on that dr. 239 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:24,019 Michael Stanger is the one of the co 240 00:08:28,689 --> 00:08:25,969 principal investigators of the fluid